On the single zone A/C in a 156, I seem to remember that you can
change what happens when you press the button that
activates/deactivates the compressor. IIRC, in one mode, the
‘compressor switch’ remembers it’s setting when the ignition is turned
off and in the other, it turns the compressor on every time the
ignition is turned on regardless of the previous setting. I think
there are other differences too.
IIRC, someone here provided details of how to switch from one mode to
the other. As my searching revealed nothing, anyone remember/know how
to do it?
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Zathras wrote:
> On the single zone A/C in a 156, I seem to remember that you can
> change what happens when you press the button that
> activates/deactivates the compressor. IIRC, in one mode, the
> ‘compressor switch’ remembers it’s setting when the ignition is turned
> off and in the other, it turns the compressor on every time the
> ignition is turned on regardless of the previous setting. I think
> there are other differences too.
> IIRC, someone here provided details of how to switch from one mode to
> the other. As my searching revealed nothing, anyone remember/know how
> to do it?
And if anyone can translate the manual section on the AC for me, that would
be good too.
I can only get heat by turning the temp *right* up, waiting for it to kick
in, then turning it down.
Oh, and the compressor turns itself on randomly, while driving. Which is
nice
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:18:57 GMT, Catman
<cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>Zathras wrote:
>Oh, and the compressor turns itself on randomly, while driving. Which is
>nice
This is normal. The mode I’m in is the other one where the compressor
follows the green lighted switch exactly regardless of all else and
the green lighted switch remembers its setting over a power off. I’m
getting to like this mode in the colder days (keeps the humidity down
in the car) when it’s cold outside but I want to switch back to your
fully auto mode in the warmer months.
The reason I’m in the wrong mode is my Garage left it this way after a
recent A/C repair (rubber & metal hose failure). I haven’t asked them
about it yet.
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Zathras wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:18:57 GMT, Catman
> <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>>Zathras wrote:
>>Oh, and the compressor turns itself on randomly, while driving. Which is
>>nice
> This is normal.
You serious? If I decide that my car is dry and cold enough and I turn the
compressor off, the car can decide to to turn it back on again? What am I
driving? KITT?
> The mode I’m in is the other one where the compressor
> follows the green lighted switch exactly regardless of all else and
> the green lighted switch remembers its setting over a power off. I’m
> getting to like this mode in the colder days (keeps the humidity down
> in the car) when it’s cold outside but I want to switch back to your
> fully auto mode in the warmer months.
Maybe we should just swap cars
> The reason I’m in the wrong mode is my Garage left it this way after a
> recent A/C repair (rubber & metal hose failure). I haven’t asked them
> about it yet.
Is it likely to be in the handbook? If so, I’ll dig it out for you / us.
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 07:01:35 GMT, Catman
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<cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>Zathras wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:18:57 GMT, Catman
>> <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>Zathras wrote:
>>>Oh, and the compressor turns itself on randomly, while driving. Which is
>>>nice
>> This is normal.
>You serious? If I decide that my car is dry and cold enough and I turn the
>compressor off, the car can decide to to turn it back on again? What am I
>driving? KITT?
Sorry. That’s not supposed to happen. I thought you meant the
compressor was going on and off with the green light always on.
>> The mode I’m in is the other one where the compressor
>> follows the green lighted switch exactly regardless of all else and
>> the green lighted switch remembers its setting over a power off. I’m
>> getting to like this mode in the colder days (keeps the humidity down
>> in the car) when it’s cold outside but I want to switch back to your
>> fully auto mode in the warmer months.
>Maybe we should just swap cars
Steady now..
>> The reason I’m in the wrong mode is my Garage left it this way after a
>> recent A/C repair (rubber & metal hose failure). I haven’t asked them
>> about it yet.
>Is it likely to be in the handbook? If so, I’ll dig it out for you / us.
Ha Ha..I haven’t looked there but I doubt it is. ISTBC. I have a
feeling that the mode I’m in and, perhaps, you want to be in is a test
mode to force the compressor to operate on the button as well as stop
it trying to start on every ignition turn on.
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Zathras wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 07:01:35 GMT, Catman
> <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>>Zathras wrote:
>>> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:18:57 GMT, Catman
>>> <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>Zathras wrote:
>>>>Oh, and the compressor turns itself on randomly, while driving. Which
>>>>is nice
>>> This is normal.
>>You serious? If I decide that my car is dry and cold enough and I turn
>>the
>>compressor off, the car can decide to to turn it back on again? What am I
>>driving? KITT?
> Sorry. That’s not supposed to happen. I thought you meant the
> compressor was going on and off with the green light always on.
Ah, no. I know *that’s* supposed to happen. My green light comes on all by
itself
<cue Tubular Bells>
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>>> The mode I’m in is the other one where the compressor
>>> follows the green lighted switch exactly regardless of all else and
>>> the green lighted switch remembers its setting over a power off. I’m
>>> getting to like this mode in the colder days (keeps the humidity down
>>> in the car) when it’s cold outside but I want to switch back to your
>>> fully auto mode in the warmer months.
>>Maybe we should just swap cars
> Steady now..
>>> The reason I’m in the wrong mode is my Garage left it this way after a
>>> recent A/C repair (rubber & metal hose failure). I haven’t asked them
>>> about it yet.
>>Is it likely to be in the handbook? If so, I’ll dig it out for you / us.
> Ha Ha..I haven’t looked there but I doubt it is. ISTBC. I have a
> feeling that the mode I’m in and, perhaps, you want to be in is a test
> mode to force the compressor to operate on the button as well as stop
> it trying to start on every ignition turn on.
Hmm. I’m getting this tickling in the back of my head about somethign I
tried to read. THe whole AC section is pretty impenetrable IMO, but if I
get a chance, I’ll dig it out tonight
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Catman <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
> Zathras wrote:
> > On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:18:57 GMT, Catman
> > <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>Zathras wrote:
> >>Oh, and the compressor turns itself on randomly, while driving. Which is
> >>nice
> > This is normal.
> You serious? If I decide that my car is dry and cold enough and I turn the
> compressor off, the car can decide to to turn it back on again? What am I
> driving? KITT?
That’s because our cars have /climate control/, not your bog standard
aircon.
The climate control will automatically control the temperature in the
car, using the aircon pump when it sees fit.
This is the major difference between aircon and climate.
Personally, it’s a non-issue to me.
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SteveH wrote:
> Catman <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Zathras wrote:
>> > On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:18:57 GMT, Catman
>> > <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>Zathras wrote:
>> >>Oh, and the compressor turns itself on randomly, while driving. Which
>> >>is nice
>> > This is normal.
>> You serious? If I decide that my car is dry and cold enough and I turn
>> the
>> compressor off, the car can decide to to turn it back on again? What am
>> I driving? KITT?
> That’s because our cars have /climate control/, not your bog standard
> aircon.
> The climate control will automatically control the temperature in the
> car, using the aircon pump when it sees fit.
> This is the major difference between aircon and climate.
> Personally, it’s a non-issue to me.
Yebbut, the grenn light *never* goes off on it’s own……
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Catman <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Personally, it’s a non-issue to me.
> Yebbut, the grenn light *never* goes off on it’s own……
It won’t, ‘cos that’s just switching the climate system ‘on’. If you
want to run without the compressor you have to put it in ‘economy’ mode
by turning off the green light – then the system will do it’s best to
maintain temperature without the help of the compressor.
The Panzer has ‘auto’ and ‘economy’ settings, which do exactly the same
thing. Even I’m not tight enough to use the ‘economy’ setting, ffs!
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:05:42 GMT, Catman <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk>,
wrote:
>Yebbut, the grenn light *never* goes off on it’s own……
Seright. Turn the key, green light default "ON".
User choice, push button & light goes off.
Factory fitted default set-up <LOL>
Pete
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Pete wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:05:42 GMT, Catman
> <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk>, wrote:
>>Yebbut, the grenn light *never* goes off on it’s own……
> Seright. Turn the key, green light default "ON".
> User choice, push button & light goes off.
And then comes on again some random time later
> Factory fitted default set-up <LOL>
Scuse me while I split my sides
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SteveH wrote:
> Catman <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Personally, it’s a non-issue to me.
>> Yebbut, the grenn light *never* goes off on it’s own……
> It won’t, ‘cos that’s just switching the climate system ‘on’. If you
> want to run without the compressor you have to put it in ‘economy’ mode
> by turning off the green light – then the system will do it’s best to
> maintain temperature without the help of the compressor.
Except it *doesn’t* The green light comes on again some random time later.
</me wonders why no one else is understanding what he’s saying here>
> The Panzer has ‘auto’ and ‘economy’ settings, which do exactly the same
> thing. Even I’m not tight enough to use the ‘economy’ setting, ffs!
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:01:17 GMT, Catman <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk>,
wrote:
>And then comes on again some random time later
This is the odd part. I say NO. Once the user pushes the button
it changes mode. Green light OFF and control set by user with
dials above… UNTIL the ignition is turned off. System will re-start
with the default Green ON.
So I think that you have a niggle problem IYMV from that. Which is
certainly how it reads to me.
Pete
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Pete wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:01:17 GMT, Catman
> <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk>, wrote:
>>And then comes on again some random time later
> This is the odd part. I say NO. Once the user pushes the button
> it changes mode. Green light OFF and control set by user with
> dials above… UNTIL the ignition is turned off. System will re-start
> with the default Green ON.
> So I think that you have a niggle problem
I think so too……
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:27:32 GMT, Catman <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk>,
wrote:
>> So I think that you have a niggle problem
>I think so too……
This is how mine work, and the manual details.
Yours appears different :-/
Pete
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Pete <iowna…@alfa.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:27:32 GMT, Catman <cat…@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk>,
> wrote:
> >> So I think that you have a niggle problem
> >I think so too……
> This is how mine work, and the manual details.
> Yours appears different :-/
Doesn’t a 2001 car have the updated dash, though, with digital climate
control?
Could be wrong, ‘cos I can’t remember the changeover year.
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On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 20:35:43 +0000, st…@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH), wrote:
>Doesn’t a 2001 car have the updated dash, though, with digital climate
>control?
>Could be wrong, ‘cos I can’t remember the changeover year.
Not in mine. I have seen the changed version in loan cars, but
not certain when the actual change took place.
May be late 01 but more inclined to guess 02.
I regarded it as the slippery slope. Next step, changing the nose,
and end up with a car that may well be lovely but not DeSilva
Pete
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"Zathras" <webnewsgr…@nospamthanks.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On the single zone A/C in a 156, I seem to remember that you can
> change what happens when you press the button that
> activates/deactivates the compressor. IIRC, in one mode, the
> ‘compressor switch’ remembers it’s setting when the ignition is turned
> off and in the other, it turns the compressor on every time the
> ignition is turned on regardless of the previous setting. I think
> there are other differences too.
> IIRC, someone here provided details of how to switch from one mode to
> the other. As my searching revealed nothing, anyone remember/know how
> to do it?
I think this is the page you are after:
http://www.btinternet.com/~g1ygd/Alfa156/156climate1.jpg
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:14:22 -0000, "Ivan" <ivan.jer…@virgin.net>
wrote:
<snip>
>I think this is the page you are after:
>http://www.btinternet.com/~g1ygd/Alfa156/156climate1.jpg
Indeed it is!! Thanks Ivan – I hadn’t spotted that info before! Ooops.
I’ve tried it in the garage and it doesn’t seem to work as I’d
expected. I’ll give it a proper try when I get the chance – Wife and
Kid are moaning at me to do something else now – they just don’t
understand….
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